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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:28 pm    Post subject: Best HPDE Organization for First Track Event? Reply with quote

What are people's opinions on the best track organization at VIR for complete novices? or does it matter?

Also,
1 day or 2 day?
more structure or less?
VIR or other tracks?

Thanks for all the help.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do a 2 day and listen to your instructor Wink

VIR is a great track
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

doesn't matter all that much, they all have their pros and cons. thscc, trackdaze, and chin are my preferred three. the most important thing is to just get out there!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always enjoyed running with the Alfa club but I guess they are an off-shoot of the THSCC, maybe? I'm sure Asphalt Ventures would be good, too. That group is run by forum member Stacy King (though he hasn't posted in forever).

Definitely a 2-day and definitely VIR. VIR is a great track and you can drive there the day of. I haven't been to NCCAR yet, but that's pretty close, too.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

THSCC, Alfa (now defunct) and Asphalt Venture all pull from the same core group of instructors. The event rules (geared for everyone's safety, i.e. not a primarily open passing track day with a novice student session) and the people that are passionate about teaching are the key points I would recommend.

Listen to your instructor and make sure you really get your car sorted out to be dead nuts reliable to enjoy your time out there instead of flailing around trying to fix it to get your track time. Least mods in the way of performance and less horsepower tend to make for a better experience for a novice, IMHO.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree with the previous comments but would add a specific event coming up in the near future, GMP's Fallout track day. It is a 1 day event at CMP. But it has very small numbers of people and there is usually 6 run groups.

So for the first time you will get alot of track time with very little traffic.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam- do you know the specifics (Date) for GMP's event??
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, talked to Stephen at GMP today.

March 15th, and this yr they may do sunday as well. And which they are talking about being an open run group all day on sunday
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys for all the information. Sounds like it's more important just to get out there and be ready to learn then.

Look forward to seeing some of you out there.

Also looking forward to seeing a repaved VIR.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, got signed up for Rezoom on March 7th and THSCC April 5-6.

Working now on making sure everything matches up with THSCC guidelines. I got SFI padding installed the other night and an inspection hole drilled.

Last thing I'm wondering about is arm restraints. Does anyone have any experience running them with OEM 3-point belts? About the best thing I've been able to think up is attaching them to my pants belt....at least that way if I need to get out of the car quickly they are attached to me and not the car in any way. I'm sure there is a better solution, but I've been unable to find much searching on the internet.

Thanks again for the help!


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That's a toughie. They are meant to clip into a harness. That is how I have used them on my Miata. They are for running with the top down so your arms don't go flailing around and get injured if you do have an incident...

I helped write the THSCC tech guide many years ago and helped at tech and I would think that belt or some attachment to your person (seen something about sewing them to a race suit) would be a reasonable proxy. You will want to clear that with current event officials (at the upcoming tech day would be a good time).

Dunno if you have used them before but they are meant to go around your arm in the bicep area and keep the "leash" short so arms/hands stay inside the cabin area of the car and not at the wrist. That will be trouble if you need "fast hands". Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome. Thanks for the information. I will be sure to check coming up on the 8th to make sure I'm doing the safest thing possible.

The more I learn, the more I realize that having a car that is driven on both street and track presents a lot of tradeoffs especially in the way of safety.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Especially a convertible yea... you might need to make sure you get a short (and brave) instructor as well.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ehhem ...

VIR Full Course ... Thursday, October 30th
http://msreg.com/allhallowsspeed

Very Happy

If you've done both Rezoom and THSCC, you'll probably want to sign up for the intermediate/advanced group (since you've got a roll bar). But if you've felt at all overwhelmed at either of those events, my beginner group takes a lot of the pressure off while still getting a pretty full track experience (controlled passing).

Would love to have you out there with us!!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Stack! I will definitely add it to the maybe list.

Rezoom got snowed out and rescheduled, but THSCC lived up to it's reputation. What a great group....great and safe track time, and great classroom instruction.

Also the car held up well and made it back in one piece...so that's always a plus.

Here is the only session video that I've processed so far: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kadAYNYLE8
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